HA/GvG Mesmer Botting - Guild Wars Forums

Elemental Mio · Jan 10, 2010, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Hi,

Recently al lot of bots have been used in HA and GvG by high rank groups. Full Rupt Bar with Power Block and rupts every spell .. Basicly Gwen -_-

Any other reports on this

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Thanks

bursta91 · Jan 10, 2010, 02:46 AM // 02:46

bots have been used for a while just more available to the public now.

Elemental Mio · Jan 10, 2010, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Hmmmm k. And Anet hasnt taken any action ?

C4RB1N3 · Jan 10, 2010, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Nah ArenaNet hasn't taken any action and i don't think ever will they dont have any focus on Guild Wars anymore, thier busy working on Guild Wars 2,.which isn't a bad thing but as for next year or so players are on their own , ArenaNet doesn't even answer Support Tickets anymore...well...they do it just takes roughly 30 days to get around to it.

Bob Slydell · Jan 10, 2010, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by sirmordicia

Nah ArenaNet hasn't taken any action and i don't think ever will they dont have any focus on Guild Wars anymore, thier busy working on Guild Wars 2,.which isn't a bad thing but as for next year or so players are on their own , ArenaNet doesn't even answer Support Tickets anymore...well...they do it just takes roughly 30 days to get around to it.

Wow...Que Que much?

laurana half elf · Jan 10, 2010, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by sirmordicia

well...they do it just takes roughly 30 days to get around to it.

tru dat

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the_jos · Jan 10, 2010, 09:16 AM // 09:16

They did take action in the latest update as far as I know:
- The automated loading of a graphics.dll in the Guild Wars folder has been disabled; however, it is still possible to inject the dll manually

As far as I can tell by the first page of the QQ thread the dll is part of the botting.
And perhaps (not sure) A-net can now see who abuses the dll and take action.

Marzipan Marci · Jan 10, 2010, 10:17 AM // 10:17

Obviously they will react to this, but the right solution may not be as simple as we think.
For me, i have no damn idea about how should the bot problem be solved.

kedde · Jan 10, 2010, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Their initial response with the .dll block is not really going to change anything but lay a few obstacles on the road for programmers.

Elemental Mio · Jan 10, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Thanks for the responses

Ive been looking elsewhere for this and it seems that its even used during the Mat. Why arent these people/guilds banned yet ?

HawkofStorms · Jan 10, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50

They do take action. They just like to have this like thing called "proof" first. You know, server logs that convincingly show they are hacking/etc.

the_jos · Jan 11, 2010, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemental Mio

Thanks for the responses

Ive been looking elsewhere for this and it seems that its even used during the Mat. Why arent these people/guilds banned yet ?

Proof.
And proof is not what is written elsewhere, it's needs to be more solid.
Just wait and see.

And remember, problems may persist for a very long time before it reaches the community....

Elemental Mio · Jan 11, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Lol don't come up with Proof answer and other poo. I and 100+ people more have seen it. Proof enough. And the link at the second post with the pictures is your proof. And theres more on the forum itself about mesmer botting and MAT.

EDIT: Lol the guy with link deleted his post. GeeGee -_-

killerbot3009 · Jan 12, 2010, 09:32 AM // 09:32

go to qq forums lol, someone posted the stupid bot... but thx to the Dll. file change anet have put in it makes using it a lot harder, as you know need to change coding. not saying that i do this, just i study computing and looked at the bot as a challenge to work out what it does. there are many bots around that use pixels on the screen to work out how to rupt but the Dll. ones are by far favourites for people to use atm. reporting people for botting will do very little, but it is still worth doing it just to make sure they dont all get away with it.

the_jos · Jan 12, 2010, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Elemental Mio

Lol don't come up with Proof answer and other poo. I and 100+ people more have seen it. Proof enough. And the link at the second post with the pictures is your proof. And theres more on the forum itself about mesmer botting and MAT.

EDIT: Lol the guy with link deleted his post. GeeGee -_-

So when someone accuses you of doing something bad and make 100+ people see it and 'confirm' it, it's ok to ban you without investigating myself?
People telling stories is not proof. It's a source for further investigation.

Look, I know the bot tool exists.
I know people are using it. That's not the argument.
The argument is making a very clear distinction between a regular player and a bot. It could be that you can see the difference and maybe the 100+ people can also see that. However, that's not what A-net will be looking at.
They should not care about what you see, they should care about the actual data on the server, supposing PvP matches are perserved for some time.
If that data indicates that a player has indeed used a bot they could ban on breach of EULA. Else it's just hearsay.

JR · Jan 12, 2010, 01:00 PM // 13:00

It's a known issue, which ArenaNet is dealing with. They attempted a quick fix in a previous game update, which didn't work out, and are hopefully finding alternative solutions.

Keep your eye on future game updates.

Jan 10, 2010, 02:21 AM // 02:21	#1
Elemental Mio Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In a tree... Guild: We Farm Your [트두므s] Profession: E/	HA/GvG Mesmer Botting Hi, Recently al lot of bots have been used in HA and GvG by high rank groups. Full Rupt Bar with Power Block and rupts every spell .. Basicly Gwen -_- Any other reports on this [@Mods: Wasnt sure where to put this] Thanks Last edited by JR; Jan 12, 2010 at 12:59 PM // 12:59..

Jan 12, 2010, 01:00 PM // 13:00	#16
JR Re:tired Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/	It's a known issue, which ArenaNet is dealing with. They attempted a quick fix in a previous game update, which didn't work out, and are hopefully finding alternative solutions. Keep your eye on future game updates. Last edited by JR; Jan 12, 2010 at 01:03 PM // 13:03..

Jan 10, 2010, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#2
bursta91 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Guild: Gangsters In The [HooD] Profession: Rt/	bots have been used for a while just more available to the public now.

Jan 10, 2010, 02:59 AM // 02:59	#3
Elemental Mio Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In a tree... Guild: We Farm Your [트두므s] Profession: E/	Hmmmm k. And Anet hasnt taken any action ?

Jan 10, 2010, 04:55 AM // 04:55	#4
C4RB1N3 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Looking For One. Profession: Mo/	Nah ArenaNet hasn't taken any action and i don't think ever will they dont have any focus on Guild Wars anymore, thier busy working on Guild Wars 2,.which isn't a bad thing but as for next year or so players are on their own , ArenaNet doesn't even answer Support Tickets anymore...well...they do it just takes roughly 30 days to get around to it.

Jan 10, 2010, 09:16 AM // 09:16	#7
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	They did take action in the latest update as far as I know: - The automated loading of a graphics.dll in the Guild Wars folder has been disabled; however, it is still possible to inject the dll manually As far as I can tell by the first page of the QQ thread the dll is part of the botting. And perhaps (not sure) A-net can now see who abuses the dll and take action.

Jan 10, 2010, 10:17 AM // 10:17	#8
Marzipan Marci Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In my own dimension. Guild: Golden Eternity [金金金金] Profession: W/	Obviously they will react to this, but the right solution may not be as simple as we think. For me, i have no damn idea about how should the bot problem be solved.

Jan 10, 2010, 11:11 AM // 11:11	#9
kedde Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban] Profession: Mo/A	Their initial response with the .dll block is not really going to change anything but lay a few obstacles on the road for programmers.

Jan 10, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57	#10
Elemental Mio Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In a tree... Guild: We Farm Your [트두므s] Profession: E/	Thanks for the responses Ive been looking elsewhere for this and it seems that its even used during the Mat. Why arent these people/guilds banned yet ?

Jan 10, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#11
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	They do take action. They just like to have this like thing called "proof" first. You know, server logs that convincingly show they are hacking/etc.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51	#13
Elemental Mio Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In a tree... Guild: We Farm Your [트두므s] Profession: E/	Lol don't come up with Proof answer and other poo. I and 100+ people more have seen it. Proof enough. And the link at the second post with the pictures is your proof. And theres more on the forum itself about mesmer botting and MAT. EDIT: Lol the guy with link deleted his post. GeeGee -_-

Jan 12, 2010, 09:32 AM // 09:32	#14
killerbot3009 Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: the beaster Guild: the Gold Fish [GOLD] Profession: W/	go to qq forums lol, someone posted the stupid bot... but thx to the Dll. file change anet have put in it makes using it a lot harder, as you know need to change coding. not saying that i do this, just i study computing and looked at the bot as a challenge to work out what it does. there are many bots around that use pixels on the screen to work out how to rupt but the Dll. ones are by far favourites for people to use atm. reporting people for botting will do very little, but it is still worth doing it just to make sure they dont all get away with it.